Overcome Stubborns

Firing Up the Talent Engines at One of the World’s Largest Airlines

When the pandemic hit, businesses and offices began to shut down operations for a rare moment of stagnancy. The travel industry especially took a drastic hit: flights were near-empty as people stayed home. For one airline, however, the pause was the optimal time to expand. In the first few years of the pandemic, United Airlines hired over 30,000 employees, a decision that differed from many other industries at that time. “​​In the months of the pandemic, we pre-hired in a couple of areas, pilots in particular, because of the long training timelines,” Kate Gebo, executive vice president of human resources and labor relations at United Airlines, said in a fireside chat at From Day One’s Chicago conference. “That was not something that we had historically ever done, but in the first few years of the pandemic, we hired 15,000 people each year for two years.”The choice to increase hiring during the pandemic was ultimately the right move, Gebo says. Revenge travel led to high post-pandemic flight demands and with a shortage of pilots on the horizon, airlines needed to take advantage of every moment to prepare, Gebo told session moderator Stefan Holt, an anchor at NBC5 News. Kate Gebo, Executive Vice President of Human Resources and Labor Relations at United Airlines, was interviewed in the fireside chat      She reflected on how United Airlines stayed ahead of the game during the pandemic and the strategies she takes to ensure United stays in front. “When we looked at the pandemic, we asked ourselves, ‘Are we going to stay the same or are we going to take this as an opportunity and grow?’” Gebo said. “We didn’t want to come out where we came in, we wanted to jump ahead.”Fueled by early retirement and an aging pilot population, analysts predict the global aviation industry will be short by 80,000 pilots by 2032. The shortage is a dire situation for airlines as they look to expand. At United, taking learning opportunities in-house became a valuable resource for talent and employees.“We don't want to just rely on whatever is out there, so we bought our own flight school, United Aviate Academy, in Goodyear, Arizona,” Gebo said. “We wanted to invest and provide world-class training, so you not only learn all the technical issues with flying but also understand the leadership and the culture at United.” Being a major airline with its own in-house flight school has its perks. The school builds a pipeline of talent for the airline and increases interest in the aviation industry, Gebo says.“Many other folks began to believe that they could get into aviation,” Gebo said. “Even though there's a little bit of a struggle because the qualifications and the training are tough, there’s a sense of accomplishment that we’re building here at Aviate Academy.”For United’s pilots and crew members, learning is still readily accessible to the community through designated training centers, Gebo says. “Our pilots have to go back to the training center every six months to up their qualifications or anytime they change aircraft types so during the pandemic, we decided to invest in a flight training center in Denver for our pilots,” Gebo said. “We can't just decide to hire a flight attendant and have them show up the next day, so we also invested in an in-flight training center in Houston for our flight attendants.”With heightened scrutiny surrounding Boeing planes, production of the planes is taking longer, affecting airline companies as they wait for delivery of aircrafts. To balance the now-abundance of pilots, United has encouraged their pilots to take time off, an announcement that caused some backlash. But unlike other industries, laying off employees isn’t a viable option, Gebo says. “Even though Boeing can't deliver an aircraft for us or push delivery of an aircraft, we have already hired those pilots six or nine months ago to make sure we were ready for the original schedule,” Gebo said. “We are oversubscribed on pilots right now and the delay in deliveries is so impactful to us because we are carrying those extra costs.”Keeping crew members on board is worth it in the long run, Gebo says, reflecting on the company’s choice to hire more during the pandemic.  “Turning the talent engine off is dangerous to your business because once you shut it down, it’s so hard getting the momentum back up,” Gebo said. “In the dark days when there were only 10,000 passengers, the easy answer would have been to shut it all down, but thank goodness we absolutely didn't.”Wanly Chen is a writer and poet based in New York City.

BY Wanly Chen | May 22, 2024

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By Mary Pieper | May 29, 2024

New Voices: Bringing a More Inclusive Approach to Workplace Belonging

When D.L. Morriss, the diversity, equity, and inclusion partner for the Chicago-based Hinshaw & Culbertson law firm was leading a team debriefing on a case, he asked a female attorney to take notes.As he ran quickly through the agenda, he realized he had assigned a woman this stereotypical role. “And I said, ‘Hey, you know what? I didn’t realize that I just did that,’” Morriss told moderator John Pletz, senior reporter for Crain's Chicago Business, during a recent panel at From Day One's Chicago conference.Morriss reassigned who would be taking notes during the meeting. “As leaders, you have to be willing to be vulnerable,” he said. “You’ve got to be willing to be wrong, and call yourself out on it. That authenticity is what I hope my team resonates with.”DEI is a Learning ProcessOne of the joys of working in the DEI space is that “you’re able to help people, understand what their values are, what they stand for, what their biases are, perhaps what they were raised with,” said Ekpedeme “Pamay” Bassey, chief learning and diversity officer for the Kraft Heinz Company. “They need to learn and unlearn and go through that process to become a more inclusive version of themselves.”DEI is not a destination but a continuous journey, says Melissa Healy, senior VP, employee belonging and participation lead at Leo Burnett.“There is no end game to diversity, or end game to belonging, or end game to inclusion,” she said. “I hope that everyone can start from a place and say, ‘I am a lifelong learner. I am continually curious.’”John Pletz, Senior Reporter for Crain's Chicago Business, moderated the panel of industry leaders Jeanette Kilo-Smith, vice president of diversity, inclusion, equity, and belonging for Zurich North America, says that giving people grace is crucial, as they will inevitably make mistakes when it comes to enhancing workplace inclusion.“You can’t expect folks to go through whatever training or experience and then walk away with all the answers, because they won’t,” she said. “You’d be surprised by the common phrases that people say, they didn’t realize could be offensive to a group, or to a person. If I said some of them, I’m sure many of you would say, ‘Oh, I didn't realize that.’”Including All Generations of EmployeesToday’s workers span five generations, from the Silent Generation to Gen Z. “Whether or not you choose to learn how to engage in a respectful manner, there are people with different lived experiences, characteristics, backgrounds, of different ages,” Bassey said. “And if you want to have a community or an organization where there’s less friction and more productivity, there’s a reason to learn how to be a more inclusive leader.”Andrea Cooper, Talkspace's chief people officer, says that different generations can learn from each other. For example, Gen Z is “leading the way with mental health and therapy,” she said.“They’re talking about something that has always been kind of hidden or not allowed to be discussed,” Cooper said. “I think this new generation in the workforce is not willing to accept the silence on it.”The Importance of IntersectionalityIndividual factors such as age or gender are only a portion of someone’s overall identity, says Healy. “I’m not just a woman, right?” she said. “There’s so much more to who I am and what I bring to the table.”Intersectionality is “less about segmenting groups and more about recognizing those intersections,” Cooper said. “If I think about myself, I identify as a woman, as a mom, as a lesbian, as a sister. There’s so many different things, and being able to talk about all those things is a lot more multidimensional than the way it was 10-15 years ago.”Cooper says these conversations may not be easier, but in the long run they are more beneficial.Pushing the Work ForwardThe 2023 U.S. Supreme Court ruling on affirmative action programs has caused some concern within organizations, says Kilo-Smith. However, “We’re not taking our foot off the gas,” she said. “What we’re continuing to focus on is creating that inclusive culture where everyone feels that they can grow and that they can thrive.”Despite the Supreme Court ruling, “The sky is not falling” when it comes to DEI, Morriss said. “I think it’s only going to continue to grow. We’ve already identified numerous studies that show the power that comes from diverse teams only increases when you add other diverse demographics. And that innovation leads to higher revenue and product profitability that many of our corporations appreciate on a regular basis.” Mary Pieper is a freelance writer based in Mason City, Iowa. 

Overcome Stubborns
By Jeanhee Kim | May 30, 2024

Bridging Business Goals with Human-Centric Hiring to Impact the Bottom Line

As a young finance and real estate professional who witnessed mergers and acquisitions fail from the inside, Stephanie Manzelli realized that a critical component of a deal’s success was in the aftermath: how well the people were integrated culturally into the newly merged workplace.With this revelation, she changed direction and embarked on a career in HR with an emphasis on talent management and acquisition. Now as the senior vice president of human resources and diversity, equity and inclusion at Lever, a talent acquisition suite and an Employ brand, Manzelli has developed key strategies for successful hires.I spoke to Manzelli during From Day One’s webinar, Intentional Recruiting: Bridging Business Goals with Human Centric Hiring to Impact the Bottom Line. During this fireside chat, she shared insights and advice, particularly on how to map out a company’s goals and influence leadership.Manzelli made it clear that knowing a company’s business goals is only one part of understanding its needs. She breaks down each business goal into a four-part roadmap that then allows her to analyze what skills and experience the company needs to meet its objectives. Manzelli calls this horizon mapping.Horizon mapping begins with the ultimate goal and then reverse engineers the interim horizons to meet that goal. She gave the example of a company that wants to go public in a few years. She sets that as horizon four. The three horizons before that are big goals, or “rocks,” the company needs to achieve to successfully attain horizon four. So horizon two might be a successful series A funding round. “Underneath each of these horizons, every business unit has deliverables that they must achieve,” she said.Once the horizon has been mapped, she does a talent gap analysis and develops what she calls a “make versus buy strategy.” ‘Make’ refers to developing skills within the current talent pool of employees at the company, whereas ‘buy’ is talent acquisition. Using horizon mapping, “we find the roadmap that we need to start to build out those talent pools and source the right candidates more proactively, so that we can fill those business needs before our business actually needs them. And that should be the North Star,” Manzelli said.Stephanie Manzelli of Lever was interviewed by journalist Jeanhee Kim during the From Day One webinar (photo by From Day One)Sometimes it’s not easy to know what the business goals are, Manzelli acknowledged, that it takes one-on-one discussions with key business leaders and skill to build the right relationships within the company and communicate effectively. One of the most effective skills she employs is influencing without authority, which requires “flexing your communication style to meet the needs of your audience.”Knowing the styles of your leaders is essential. For data-driven individuals, Manzelli comes to the conversation armed with reports, metrics and return-on-investment figures. Other leaders depend on their gut and intuition. Those conversations are easier, she says, and are based on relationships and trust. But to maintain that trust, she prepares the reports as backup.“I always enter an organization or a conversation as slowly as I can. I really like to build the relationship before we dive into the tasks,” Manzelli said. “It's not a thing that takes me a long time to do, but it does pay off on the backend, and ensures the people that I’m partnering with have the bedrock of a relationship with me.” That relationship building then allows the leadership to have more open dialogue about their goals.These skills, horizon mapping and influencing without authority, are key for any successful HR professional. “HR, right, wrong or indifferent, is oftentimes looked at as a highly administrative function where we’re often only engaged when people need help.”But she said knowing what your company’s goals are and how HR and talent acquisition can get the company to meet its goals is always in the back of her mind. “You always have to make that connection point for the business. That’s our responsibility.”Editor's note: From Day One thanks our partner, Lever, an Employ brand, for sponsoring this webinar. Jeanhee Kim is an independent journalist who has worked for CoinDesk, Crain’s New York Business, Money magazine and Forbes Asia. 




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